The Idea that we should hamstring technology to appease purist fascism is ludicrous. How is a set of 5 to pw then two gap wedges different from a set of 4 to pw then gw with shorter shafts if the loft of the first set’s 7 iron is the same as the 6 iron in the later set? It’s not as if Viktor Hovland and Matthew Wolff – young guns who make Jordan Spieth look like Phil Mickelson with skinnier calves – are betting their success on a transition from what they’ve always played into loft-deficient irons. From the Tour's best to the best in your foursome, Titleist irons are designed to help discerning players at every level go lower than ever before. I think what people here need to realize is yes, newer equipment can give the feeling that they are hitting the ball longer than they think they are. The Titleist T100 irons offer better players who like the look of blades with more forgiveness and a lot of options. Loft does not equal distance. The CB irons are even better than ever, and remarkably forgiving. I’m impressed with the Titleist putting out another option I feel is geared towards attracting my investment… I’m going looking and hope they drop in Black! It looks special. The T100 is the most used iron on the PGA Tour and though the T100S does go a little further it was probably still too tough for me to hit consistently at my speed. What’s the big deal here? Titleist T100 Irons Verdict. Gold. This iron is aimed at elite golfers with 7 iron ball speeds of 105 mph plus. Let’s get started. It’s why you hit your PW more accurately than your 4I. I really don’t care what is marked on the club or what loft it is. This is more due to an aging golfer population, but I am just as much for playing traditional game improvement irons and yet I can still play as well with the traditional lofts. As in now, I don’t have to have two 6 irons…. I believe this is for the players. My Wilson Staff Fluid feel from around 1985/6 was at 48. Earlier in the year, we caught up with Titleist at the PGA Merchandise Show and asked them to explain the difference between the T100 and T100s. I have this set with KBS $Taper 120 shafts and at traditional loft they do spin more than other set ups I have at same lofts. Your(PW) pitching wedge has 46 degrees and your 9 iron is 42 degrees. We’re not hiding from that,” says Talge. These are fantastic feeling irons and gone is the metallic trampoline feel from generations of the past and while 718 Ap2 made that go away as well these are definitely next level AP2’s and very impressed with this version on every level. Retail Price for the Titleist T100•S Iron is $175/club ($1,399/8-piece set) with steel shafts and $187.50/$1,499 with graphite. If the distance increases and the height is still there then I’m changing my attitude. (You might ask.). Not even the pros carry those irons because they would have imposible lofts. I applaud Titleist. A ser of these would start on a 5 or 6 iron and a few hybrids. t-시리즈 아이언은 투어 최고의 선수부터 모든 수준의 골퍼들이 더 나은 플레이를 할 수 있게 설계 되었습니다. But the T100s just as sleek at address (and a little more techie) while providing similar peak trajectories and spin rates with about 7-10 yards more distance. Just because something is repeated over and over does not make it true. If I needed a 7 iron with “jacked” loft to get there, wouldn’t I likely need a 6 iron with a more traditional loft – in other words, I might be using a club with the same loft even though one would be called a 7 iron and the other a 6 iron. That’s not to say all loft-jacked irons perform as advertised but it also doesn’t mean that none of them does. The AP2 714 (2014 model) stock P wedge is 46*. Now there has been enough argument about lower CG in irons so that the static loft have to drop to counter that have we seen any serious in depth tests done? Great feel and surprising levels of performance. It would be worth a fitting to try. I used to jump all over the strong lofts. We put the T100 and latest model of the Titleist CB irons against each other on the launch monitor. The surprising new T100S from @Titleist looks to put the PLAYER back in the Players Distance category. All of that stuff is heavily dependent on additional factors like geometry and CG location. The T100S irons are designed for tour-level precision and feel while being 2-degrees stronger than the T100 irons for longer distance as well as a thinner face for more ball speed. Great!… Now I don’t have to have two of the same numbers in my mixed bag of T100’s and T200’s….??? Does that mean that everyone who buys them is stupid? In the end who cares if you are playing a jacked set or not you still have the same number of irons, the only problem is that the 2.5 degree gapping for long irons and 6 degree gapping for wedges certainty will not be beneficial to many players. I happen to be very familiar with Wishon and he is arguing a point nobody made. Great job. Share this story: Facebook; Twitter; LinkedIn; The Verdict: The forged T100 replaces the popular AP2 irons… In 2020 however, they have taken this to another level with the introduction of two new models in the T-Series family: T100S and T400. Can’t believe I read this whole fussy thread. For more information, visit Titleist.com. Long ago, there was a time when the loft of player’s irons and GI and SGI irons had the same loft iron for iron. You cannot fault Titleist for trying to cater for every possible type of golfer with it's T-Series range. The turf interaction with this iron was excellent, I felt like I had the workability of a blade. Requested by Tour pros and coveted by TeamTitleist players, these stealthy pin seekers are ready to go long.STRIKE FROM FURTHER The fully-forged construction of T100S, with 2 of stronger loft than our T100 Irons, … At a price tag of $1,200, we’d recommend an older model of the Titleist CB sets unless you hate money. Ok, all drivers should be 7.5*. Looking at data, you can't really tell them apart (Blue dots = T100, Orange dots = T100S, Purple dots = T200). However the stopping capabilities were different outside. Availability begins Aug. 28. However, I also like to play shortened clubs. The TitleistT200 irons are the successor to the AP3. But the launch angle and spin will be very different and your 6 iron at 24 degrees and 5 iron at 21 degrees are not going to hold the green so well. So…. Tony, don’t let you=r facts get in the way of someone’s perfectly ill informed rant. 13 time PGA Tour winner's putter now available! Alex. I’ve been told that I sometimes can be overly technical so I want to make sure I didn’t lose any of you. I am positive that I would still have no issues holding greens with these even with jacked lofts. At least you could inform the people “we have smth in the back log” because I would be really pi**** if i just bought new T100. I don’t know if the T100•S is for you. Designed to give better players the distance they need to score lower.BETTER PERFORMANCE FROM EVERY DETAIL T100S irons meet the need for a … Why do you guys care so much about the clubs other people are using? I’m 75 my handicap is 7.9. What you get with T100•S is a compact body, narrow sole and a thin topline. Looking at the Trackman data, the T100S are doing exactly what they say they should, but unless your ball striking is excellent it's not going to happen every single time. I’ve been told that I sometimes can be overly technical so I want to make sure I didn’t lose any of you. Either write from intelligence or from your thoughts ! Man, I triggered some serious morons, the guy invoking tom Wishon obviously has reading comprehension issues. Not so smart if the company doesn’t have that STRONG WEDGE business…. Titleist T100S Black 5-9 Project X LZ 6.0 Onyx Titleist SM8 Jet Black 45F/9 bounce, 50F/8 bounce, 55S/11 bounce, 60S/10 bounce Project X LZ 6.0 Onyx 2019 Bettinardi QB8 Midslant Limited Run with Stability Shaft The stock shaft is the Project X LZ, but consider all of Titleist’s no-upcharge offerings at your disposal. GolfWRX staff has had a chance to hit and study the Titleist … I then compared the 2019 T100 and T200 models directly to the 2020 T100S model at LSH Auto, Stockport and the T100S against the other new iron for 2020, the T400. Also if you do strike the ball well and want to hit the ball slightly further (about half a club) this is another easy way to do that without losing feel or resorting to a bigger head like the T200 or T300 iron models. What’s the difference? But that was because initially I saw a lower ball flight with not enough spin to hold the green. Calling a 5 iron a 7 iron is solely for the purpose of finding a consumer stupid enough to believe that they’ve gained something. I have to say the head looks exactly the same as the T100. When you change the loft of an iron, the bounce goes with it. So with no mention of forgiveness I guess Titleist is not concerned about us players distance fans that look for both distance and forgiveness. The T100•S is almost exactly like the T100, except that the lofts are 2° stronger. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. If you’re looking for a complicated technology story, you’ve come to the wrong place. Only 2* stronger than T100 which are the same specs as my MP59s. The T100S is a fully-forged player's iron with slightly stronger lofts to provide quality ball-strikers, or 'better players' who still want to use a ‘tour-shape’, that extra little bit of distance. Key Technology. His old set was a T-MB 4 iron with 718 AP2 5-PW irons. But in all reality, I would suggest that you test older clubs out and compare. Gear: Titleist T100 irons Price: $175 each with True Temper AMT White shafts and Golf Pride Tour Velvet 360 shafts; $187.50 each with Mitsubishi Tensei White AM2 graphite shafts Specs: Forged 17-4 stainless steel body with SUP-10 stainless steel face and co-forged tungsten weights Available: August 30 For a decade, the Titleist AP2 was one of the most popular irons … Titleist T100 Review. Not the article or the clubs but the comments. Now do you see how dumb your loft logic sounds? Extended Apex range now has an iron for every golfer. I agree with Jeff here. To overcome that and provide playable trajectories (higher peak heights, steeper landing angles with stopping power) you need more dynamic loft. I would suggest that we look at focusing more on swing mechanics basics and alignment before we look at the lofts on clubs… My current 5 iron is just short of what my 3 iron used to be…and with lofts of 3 and 4 irons into the 19 and 16 degree range, does that make them any easier to hit? We've taken the most popular irons on the PGA Tour and carefully engineered them to maximise distance. Can Titleist's new ball live up to some very bold claims? What would a club that is 35 degrees be called in your hypthetical? If that’s not appealing to you, remember that T100, T200, T300, 620CB, 620MB, and maybe something else will be on the rack next to it. That would be interesting. That “something” is a true single-piece solid-face forging. I add dynamic loft an impact, has always been an issue for me so played heavy shafts (S300) to keep the flight down. I like the look of these irons and give kudos for Titleist to bring these irons I always looked for the classic profil of T100 with T200 lofts. 卓越した弾道コントロール性能、進化したフェースプロファイル、そして感性を満たす打感・打音。 タイトリスト ツアーアイアンのベネフィットに、高い飛距離性能をプラスして誕生し … Knowing I am playing a 5 iron that used to be 7 iron loft doesn’t necessarily affect how far I hit the ball. This iron is designed to help the best players score lower. My 47 degree MB wedge will certainly perform VERY differently than a 47 degree club with the makeup of say, a P790. You'd think that might be the case, but if they were to do that, the head would be nowhere near as effective through the turf. Stronger lifts keep the ball flight lower so the wind doesn’t kill me as much. 98-102 driver and 89-84 on irons. This is a great number for me and 6 yards further than my furthest hit with the T100 iron. Always appreciate the content. in performance, feel, and turf interaction was crisper. Also will have in my bag; Driver, #3 + #5 woods, #4 + #5 hybrids + Putter. Tour-refined sole shape (same as in T100) features a thin topline, minimal offset and enhanced camber for improved turf interaction. In order to give even more players a better fit, they created the T100-S irons. My 7 iron goes 150 about the same So now that the range is sequenced correctly, what we really need to find out is how the new models compare with their predecessors. I love the feel of my KZG forged irons they feel like hitting thru soft butter. And interesting enough they actually added loft to the set so that Matt could hit the irons to a distance that he is comfortable with and I think Ian talked about the peak height drop off there. Tiger woods still uses weaker loft my point is just make sure to know your distance on each of your irons and don’t aim on the flag aim in the middle of the green. No, Titleist didn’t just take T100, bend it 2° stronger, Sharpie an “S” on it, and do the Vegas dealer thing – clap its hands, maybe give you a touch of spirit fingers – walk away from the table and call it a day. I want to copy and paste this reply, to use for those who haven’t actually tried it, like you did. I have this set and I Like the feel and turf interaction. Applaud Titleist for leaving the gaps at 4 degrees in the scoring clubs. Titleist T100・S アイアン を試打しました。 T100アイアンの魅力をそのままに、飛距離アップ出来ちゃいます。 過去のAP2の扱いやすさが熟成されたモデルに飛距離性能が備わった。ロ […] http://www.golfwrx.com/author/tomwishon/ They also seem to be hard to shape the ball. Guys, this one is as easy as it gets, so I’m going to move fast. The thing I don’t like about virtually any modern irons is why do they have to look all angular and pimped up, like some kind of high tech monstrosity? Made to fit the eye of the player’s iron golfer, the T100-S model features 2 … T300 might be better for you if you are looking for foregiveness, SO MUCH FOR LOFT JACKING Retail price for the T200 and T100S Black Irons is $200 per club ($1,599 for the eight-club set). How anyone could buy a TM or Callaway set with 6 degree gaps in scoring clubs and 2.5 degree gaps in “long irons” is laughable. Other than that I don’t think what the starting point of the gaps is so long as they give you consistent shot yardages. Plus due tonsaid shoulders, my swing plane is steep so I get the ball up in the air which also reduces distance. As part of our annual Editor’s Choice Awards, we discussed the evolution of the Titleist brand, specifically my assertion that the overhaul of its club lineup has been nothing short of dramatic. Let’s address what many of you are probably thinking. as it’s been all my life. The Ping i500 irons are beautiful player-distance irons that deliver a high launch, low spin and impressive distance.. 3D Printing adds a whole new dimension for Cobra, Ping return with the smallest G irons we've ever seen. Bottom line: It looks the same as T100 – that’s kinda the point – but it plays differently. 55 year old’s hit driver & 80 year old’s hit 8 irons? I find the ego hurts your score more then any club in your bag. Never hurts to give consumer more options. We’ve covered this many times before but, what the hell, I’ll bang my head into the wall again. So that’s why 7 irons are jacked up to about 27 degrees because you won’t see much difference by looking at peak height. On dry, links turf - you may struggle a little with the T400 but you'll have no worries with the T100S. & sometimes use it off the tee.. I prefer the T-100’s because of their traditional shape and they will be easiest for me to adjust to from my Titleist CB’s. Irons: Titleist 4 - 6 T200,Titleist 7 - PW T100S, Nippon NS Pro 880 AMC Chrome Stiff Wedges: Titleist Vokey SM 7 - 50*, 56*, 60* Standard Wedge Shafts Putter: Scotty Cameron Studio Select Newport 1.5 Ball: Titleist Pro V1 X The PGA does not implement rules. The T100S will retail for $175 per club in steel ($1,400 for a set of eight). This article is an introduction to the T-Series irons, the latest evolution in the ultra-successful lineage of technology-packed performance irons from Titleist. Yet almost no one talks about it. Intrigued by your comment about the way we gap our bags being fundamentally flawed. Add an S, and you’ve still got a T100, but you’re sure as hell going to get more distance. Them are some pretty irons that I’ll never buy…. It looks special. And remember an improvement of 10 or 20% is some kind of euphoria. Any dumbass would know that even though the lofts on a golf club are stronger, I can still hit my Adams A7 6 iron as far as my Bio Cell 6 iron. . Most of all Tony believes in performance over hype and #PowerToThePlayer. When stupid players demand stupid solutions to problems that don’t exist, smart companies will provide them. Not true… in the 80’s Player carried 2 and 3 irons. From the precision balance of T100 to the consistent distance of T200 and engineered forgiveness of T400, T-Series irons are designed to land every shot closer. One of the best players irons available. Better players who have the speed and aren’t easily gimmicked will likely stick to the standard T100, while those who might have lost a little clubhead speed or are between sets can give these a try. I would personally feel that the number on the bottom is only a guide for me. Everybody good? I do not strike the golf ball well enough on enough occasions and like most golfers need some help in the ball speed department. My solution is a simple one! FIRST LOOK: Titleist releases T100S, T200 irons in limited black finish By: Jonathan Wall August 13, 2020 Titleist's T100S is one of two irons to receive the black PVD treatment. Golfers that are not as good, or don’t care to shot shape as much, and are looking for something more forgiving, can get the benefits of distance AND a decent launch and decent angle to hold more greens with their irons. Titleist T400 Iron Review. Can marginal gains provide the ultimate game improvement package? I play Taylormade P790s because iI love the look . I don’t have to practice or agonize over club selection with a range finder. While I likely would not play these irons, I consider myself a decent iron player. With the ‘S’ version, I can play the same head I love, but get shafts that are more suited to my swing speed and tempo while still bringing down the launch like I need to. Progressive set design - with progressive blade lengths, sole widths and hosel lengths - delivers optimal CG positioning with preferred shaping through the set. Last thing that I would ask Tony, as mentioned in the article that delofting in irons seems to be a norm now, a 7 iron of 32 to 36 degree I could understand to fit different players needs but 27 to 29 degree 7 iron? T100 S lofts = JPX 919 Forged though stronger 9i and PW AND you can have a 3i I haven’t seen the drama with Mizuno specs, even with the Hot Metal. If you're surprised or frustrated by that when testing these irons, they're probably not the iron for you... My dispersion from left to right, again, was very consistent with both the T100S and T100 irons. Back in the day, Titleist made some beautiful irons with flowing lines. You literally have been deaf to what MGS has been saying then…. I think this is a great idea by them. We know a lower lofted driver could produce more ball speed. For its part, Titleist aims to bring a different kind of swagger with the hope of reaching golfers for whom “player’s distance” hasn’t been quite “player-centric” enough. It’s all marketing, didn’t you know that! That was supposed to be what we now think of as a player’s distance iron but as it became popular on tour, the distance part of AP2’s story faded away. It’s true. CG, MOI, and ultimately spin rates will affect this. Hence why they have used the word strong. We don’t need more rules. The reason I stopped playing AP2’s is that I had to bend them 1-2 degrees strong to get my spin down, but then the offset was too much and I aimed everything left. It would have been really easy to just take the T100 and bend them stronger for those players. just how far the irons go. Both T100S and T200 Black are available in 4-PW, W(48°). Will try them and see how they perform. Another thing we observed the T100s had a draw flight a bit more pronounced than the AP2s. I care whether the club I hit helps me get the ball on the green. With two kids that amount of time to dedicate to reducing spin is just not possible. Talge says the idea for T100•S isn’t much different than the intent behind the original AP2. Nothing really feels like the fully forged irons I play. I play Callaway Apex CF16 and these have even stronger lifts than those. D-Plane and anything related to club delivery is driven by dynamic loft, not static loft. The T100 inspires daring, imaginative play with precise distance, Tour-level shaping and signature Titleist feel. Tony, you alluded to a fundamental flaw in tapping of the bag. Am I the only one who thought as soon as these were announced. Would’ve had zero issued continuing with the T100 as they are lovely irons and the best I’ve played, but really believe these will help to improve my game just by having a little less loft – regardless of how far I’m hitting each club. They just scream jacked lofts and the sky is falling. These stronger lofts are still short of most GI irons (and far weaker than Callaway’s latest 21 degree 7-iron or whatever it is). No prizes for guessing what the 'S' stands for then - strong. Everybody who loves this too should definitely consider the Honma Tour World 747 P irons. You hit the nail on the head with this comment. They did this at same time as bringing out two bladed iron models in the 620 CB and MB. The T100S irons are 2 degrees stronger and a thinner club face for maximum distance. Are there any tests that demonstrate a significant distance gap between two wedges with the same loft and same shaft. I managed to squeeze one out 142 yards carry and 147 yards total. For more information, visit Titleist.com. Even on a relative basis, it won’t tell you launch angle, spin rate, peak height, descent angle or whether you’ll be able to stop a ball on the green. The hotter stronger lofted irons tend to feel really hard and clicky. Then I read your article. With jacked lofts, you have lower (strong) static lofts. I always believed in playing forgiving irons and don’t care about jacking up the loft, . I also am sick of people crying about lofts. Each iron’s loft was altered to hit a certain distance so that each iron actually may not have the exact same loft difference. The peak height of the ball during flight wasn’t lower for me than the T100 irons although they did fly slightly longer in my testing indoors. Tony, as with many of your other articles – well done. Co-forged dual-density tungsten (with an average of 66g placed in the heel and toe of the mid and long irons) delivers exceptional stability. It's everything you would expect from a forged Titleist iron. They are all great clubs. 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